Posts by average joe

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¡New! Video Elder's School 2015: "How to conduct the Watchtower Study"

by hildebrando in

http://hildeydesa.blogspot.cl/2015/11/escuela-de-ancianos-bosquejo-y-video-de.html

average joe

i would love an english version.

Looking for a couple pdfs please

by average joe in

does anyone have ..... branch organization manual 2015. how to conduct the watchtower study video and guide in english?

it is in spanish here.

http://hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2015/11/escuela-de-ancianos-bosquejo-y-video-de.html yes i still want to see it.. are there any new manuals ,guides,secret books within the last year or so you guys can share?.

average joe

Does anyone have ....

Branch organization manual 2015

How to conduct the watchtower study video and guide in english? It is in spanish here

http://hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2015/11/escuela-de-ancianos-bosquejo-y-video-de.html yes i still want to see it.

Are there any new manuals ,guides,secret books within the last year or so you guys can share?

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JW Chef Refuses to Cook Black Pudding

by cofty in

sainsbury's has been forced to apologise after its jehovah's witness chef refused to serve a customer black pudding with his full english breakfast.alan mackay was stunned when he was told he could not enjoy the staple, made up of animal fat, blood and oatmeal, with his meal at the branch in arnold, nottingham.after receiving his incomplete dish the former police officer was told the black pudding would not be served because it was against the religious beliefs of the chef to do so....

average joe

Did the chef tell the employee to tell the officer he was a jw and refused to make blood pudding? NO ABSOLUTELY NOT. Therefore , The employee that first failed to understand simple directions and then took a subordinate attitude and brought bad press to this food chain is at fault not the chef.

Once again I will say that I have worked in many places just like many of you here and you all know ......you all know ... that many of the places you worked at were not honest about what really happened. I can tell you for sure my current manager lies all the time about her screw ups to customers and staff. I can tell you also at my last job my bosses would lie all the time to customers about why we didn't show up to do the installation as scheduled . The tech called out sick or his truck broke down or family emergency etc etc when really it was their bad scheduling.

There is no evidence the chef mistreated the staff. The article does not say anything about the chef being fired but does say the employers defend the chef and his actions.

PUDDING PUDDING PUDDING PUDDING HAHAHAHAHA

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JW Chef Refuses to Cook Black Pudding

by cofty in

sainsbury's has been forced to apologise after its jehovah's witness chef refused to serve a customer black pudding with his full english breakfast.alan mackay was stunned when he was told he could not enjoy the staple, made up of animal fat, blood and oatmeal, with his meal at the branch in arnold, nottingham.after receiving his incomplete dish the former police officer was told the black pudding would not be served because it was against the religious beliefs of the chef to do so....

average joe

Here is what everyone seems to be not understanding

"...A spokeswoman said a member of staff had misunderstood that the chef had asked them to prepare the black pudding, not that black pudding could not be served."

The above quote explains the fault was not with the chef but with the employee not following directions.

Which makes this not an article about a jw chef not wanting to do their jobs but about the difficulty in finding staff who can follow directions and know what not to say to customers. In any kitchen the head chefs do not tolerate people who can not follow their directions.

Why in the world would the employee tell the officer that the chef was a jw and thats the reason for no blood pudding? In any restaurant or business I have ever worked at you dont reveal the truth to the customer. You dont tell them I was too lazy to do my job properly or I screwed up or I forgot or was to be chatting to do my job etc thats why its taking longer or you cant have what you came here for. No matter what anyone says time and time again I have watched company's tell customers anything but what really happened to avoid them getting angry and to keep them calm. Why an employee went to the officer and actually said the chef is a jw and refuses to serve you blood pudding blows my mind especially when we know the blood pudding is regularly served with the jw working as a chef . Why would it become an issue all of the sudden. This calls into question at least in my mind his intentions revealing information no normal person would tell a customer. I believe this is an attempt to make the jws look bad more then this is about staff confusion. I prefer honesty if jw does something wrong let them catch hell for it but if some hateful punk does something dishonest to make someone else look bad I am gonna give them hell for it too.

Most of us here know jws and we all know they will take a job if they can do it without violating their religious principles. If the company requires that they violate those principles they will promptly give notice and go work somewhere else .

In most cases, The company will have someone else deal with blood or holiday, or political issues and the jw continues to work there with no problems. My current boss for example loves hiring Jws because she feels they work hard and do not steal. She is perfectly fine with them not doing anything political and the bonus is they can work holidays since they do not celebrate.

Also, The world is full of non religious nuttery. People are hateful, rude, selfish, greedy, violent, prideful, arrogant, heartless, liars, thieves, addicts, to mention a few traits of non religious people. It should therefore not surprise anyone that religious people who are the same as non religious people have the same bad traits . While non religious people regulary criticize religious people for their short comings and failures to live up to the bible despite trying. We learn that all men are hypocrites, religious people for not practicing what they preach and non religious people for doing the same things they criticize religion for doing.

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JW Chef Refuses to Cook Black Pudding

by cofty in

sainsbury's has been forced to apologise after its jehovah's witness chef refused to serve a customer black pudding with his full english breakfast.alan mackay was stunned when he was told he could not enjoy the staple, made up of animal fat, blood and oatmeal, with his meal at the branch in arnold, nottingham.after receiving his incomplete dish the former police officer was told the black pudding would not be served because it was against the religious beliefs of the chef to do so....

average joe

Also, he got his meal free, his name in the media and you can be sure hes eaten plenty of blood pudding and will eat plenty of pudding in his future. phew! I am so glad that officers going to survive this terrible ordeal. hahahahah

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JW Chef Refuses to Cook Black Pudding

by cofty in

sainsbury's has been forced to apologise after its jehovah's witness chef refused to serve a customer black pudding with his full english breakfast.alan mackay was stunned when he was told he could not enjoy the staple, made up of animal fat, blood and oatmeal, with his meal at the branch in arnold, nottingham.after receiving his incomplete dish the former police officer was told the black pudding would not be served because it was against the religious beliefs of the chef to do so....

average joe

#1 There is not mention of termination of the employee which is often the case when they have done something wrong and it makes it to the media.

#2 The restaurant defended the chef by saying there was a mixup in the kitchen in which blood pudding which was regularly served was supposed to be made and served by someone else.

#3 The chef is apparently valued and appreciated as they still have their job. Perhaps what the chef brings to the business is more important then whether or not they actually make the blood pudding themselves or have someone else do it like many other chefs who assign tasks to their staff. Perhaps, This is one of many company's who value employees that are religious and come with benefits that non religious people do not have or perhaps the chefs religion isnt a problem for the business. Surely, the issue of the blood pudding being prepared by the jw was addressed at their hire date or shortly thereafter and it was approved for others to make it and the staff was fully aware of this arrangement as blood pudding was served regularly. The only exception would be for a new hire who had not yet had time to learn the acceptable arrangement. This brings more questions though.

#4 I want to know why if the chef asked the employee to make the blood pudding why he told the officer the chef wouldn't make it? Was the employee lazy? Was it a deliberate attempt to make jws look bad? How do you confuse the chef telling you to make the pudding with telling you we refuse to make that pudding which is made regularly? I admit however, unlikely it is possible but highly suspect!

#5 How does an officer not getting his pudding one time make the news? Did he call the news because he didnt get his pudding???? Did the employee call the news to make the jw look bad?? Did someone else who wasnt even involved call the news because they were so distraught the officer didnt get his pudding?? Or they hated jws so much they called the news about pudding? How the hell is this even news ?? Basically, the news story is really nothing more then the officer is cheezed off because he didnt get his pudding..... due to staff confusion... This isnt news at all.. I couldnt tell you how many times I went to a place that didnt have what i came there for or screwed up my order. I ordered something else and didnt cry about it to the news like a little whiny baby especially over pudding!!! freakin pudding hahahaha Be a man about it.. move on keep smiling officer. I see pudding in your future. one day without pudding is not going to kill you.

#6 Somehow an article which said nothing more then an officer was not served pudding due to staff confusion and hes cheezed off about it turned into this long debate about religion in the workplace etc etc etc ... the article really didnt say much at all and i find it fascinating how its considered news and how people are having lengthy discussions which have really littleif anything to do with staff confusion that this article is about.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: A Clear Decline

by Hadriel in

it is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.

if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.

i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.

average joe

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F0dtdq

It looks like its going up not down. Am I reading this wrong?

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JW Teacher Sues School District For Being Fired Over Valentin's Day

by Bangalore in

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/25/suit-teacher-sacked-for-not-throwing-valentines-day-party/.

a former public elementary school teacher who is a jehovah’s witness has filed a lawsuit against the suburban detroit school district where she used to work because, she claims, school officials ordered her to organize a classroom valentine’s day party and then sacked her because she refused.. people who belong to the jehovah’s witnesses, a millenarian christian sect, do not celebrate valentine’s day.

thus, the teacher, yvonne lemmons, is suing for religious discrimination, reports michigan live.. the defendant in the lawsuit is the southfield public school district in southfield, mich.. lemmons, 56, says in her lawsuit that she had been a fourth-grade teacher at macarthur university academy, a public magnet school, for 10 years and had faced no issues concerning her religious beliefs prior to the valentine’s day party kerfuffle..

average joe

I love how some people read this article and go i think there is more to the story... based on what information?? I hope you find yourselves in a situation where everyone says there is more to the story and what did you do wrong. That's how people are these days letting their imaginations run wild with NO PROOF at all always trying to imply things with no evidence whatsoever. Its disgusting really.

Jw or no jw Schools should be worried about education and not wasting time and our money on all this other crap imho.

jw or no jw The school or anyone else should not force someone to do something against their religion.... end of story.

We do not know that the kids were sitting there all alone but we do know its highly freakin unlikely! The school should have and likely did make arrangements for the class. How do we know? The jw informed the school she wouldnt be participating in valentines day. Therefore, The school made other arrangements which IS NOT HARD TO DO for the students who were well taken care of I am sure. Its not hard to find a staff member to throw a valentines party. I dont give a flip about valentines day and dont see much purpose in children being part of this "romantic" holiday or helping our fat american children to become diabetics because of commercialism.

She was a teacher for many years and offered to help the school in other ways according to the article. If after so many years of dealing with holidays she was only just now fired it is most likely due to new administration that doesnt like her faith. I doubt she acted any differently then she did any of her many other years as a teacher regarding holidays.

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Mentally challenged DF

by James Mixon in

there was a df of a mentally challenged young man he sexually assaulted a young girl.. in jesus day people were possessed by demons but we know today they had mental issues.. do you know of any cases where a mentally challenged person was df.. the case that i mention the young man was 18-20 years old and it was a case where he was.

functional, school, friends and was baptized.

i knew the family and if you didn't know he was a. typical teenager.. my question, if a mentally challenged person is able to answer the questions to qualify to be.

average joe

never mind im pms-ing

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"There will be earthquakes...."

by Fisherman in

given: the prophecy is true.. what did jesus mean?

i have an app that alerts me of any earthquake all over the world.

since i got the app, it is one earthquake after another all over the world.

average joe

what app do you use to see all these earthquakes? I am just curious.